probably not going to have glenn beck debating or -- >> no, you're not going to have keith olbermann or -- >> that was a good one. that way we got both people gone from their respective networks. >> where is keith? >> someone got mad at current tv. they have another list of winners. anyway, what are you -- >> i'm expecting obama will be pretty aggressive. >> even though he's got to somehow pivot from the audience person on to romney. >> i keep hearing that doesn't play well in this format. >> yeah, you don't want to be too rude in the presence of voters. on the other hand, the president knows he was too passive in the debate in denver and romney was aggressive. and when you don't answering i a aggression, you have a problem. >> hard to do without moving. i saw one of the things that they can't do is get in the other person's space. >> that would be a big mistake. al gore found that out. al gore decided he was going to make george w. bush a little uncomfortable and bush actually disarmed him beautifully. he sort of looked over at gore and he goes, hi. and then he turns back. >> bush i